Thursday, May 28, 2009
A regular TigerHawk reader had a chance encounter with erstwhile domestic terrorist Bill Ayers today. Hilarity ensued.
I had a little "chat" with none other than domestic terrorist & "distinguished professor" Bill Ayers today at the Amtrak waiting room in New York's Penn Station. He was in his standard issue tee-shirt with a red Chicom-type star, accented by a sports jacket to add a dollop of academic respectability. Perhaps our meeting got off to a rocky start when I told Billy (truthfully) that I was serving at Fort Dix around the same time one of his bombs was intended to blow up people at a dance on the base. Things kind of went downhill from there. Billy denied that he wanted to kill folks back then, mocked my reference to radical lefty-turned-conservative David Horowitz, advised me to read his book, and generally disputed the notion that he has anything for which to apologize. When I asked Billy how that communism stuff is going, he said, "Not too well right now ... but there's still time." He also defended his man-crush on Hugo Chavez, accused the U.S. of - what else - imperialism, and seemed totally unburdened by any guilt for his past acts. At one point I disputed something by saying, "C'mon, you know which way the wind was blowin'." The aging Weather Underground leader thought that was "cute." Imagine, I've been called cute by a guy who set bomb and whose wife once said she "digs" Charlie Manson. All in all, this was not your everyday waiting room conversation. Except for the fact that we did discuss the "weather."
Impressive. Many people who are such good friends with the President of the United States won't give the average fellow the time of day, much less ride the Amtrak.
Interesting to hear that “Billy Ayers,” who along with his wife was one of the co-authors of Prairie Fire, has no regrets about dedicating the book to among others, Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy. Interesting he has no regret advocating a “dictatorship of the proletariat” for the United States.
Nice conversation reg reader. Ayers is one of the few tangos that helped build and plant bombs that were not intended to harm anyone. I often wonder why he didnt patent his good intentions explosive devices.
Come TH, give this a rest. It's all bullshit outside of the wingnut universe. And I wonder what your father would've made of your snitty "friend of the President" comment. He'd probably tell you to turn it down a notch.
I dunno. My father was plenty used to me writing right-wing letters to the Des Moines Register back in the day.
The truth is, Barack Obama was good friends with Ayers, a fact that is irrelevant in lefty circles and highly relevant in righty circles. One's attitude toward Sixties-era radicalism goes a long way to defining one's politics in general.
CC: so you have no problem with dedicating a book to, among others, Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy?
Only wingnuts object to that?
So why don't you dedicate YOUR next book to Sirhan Sirhan?
It's all bullshit outside of the wingnut universe.
It's all largely unknown outside of the wingnut universe.
If some crank starting sending you even fake bombs, you'd be freaking out.
Bombs are serious, very very serious. That you don't consider them and the people that plant them particularly serious says far more about you than Ayers.
There is a special place reserved in hell for ayers and his snivelling "wife"- planting explosives willy nilly to kill your fellow citizens I believe earns the lowest ring according to Dante. He is the same sort of filth as mcviegh (sic) and nichols. His foul deeds will come back to haunt him and he will get what he deserves later when the walls close in on him in the darkness-POS
Well, maybe there are parallel universes, and when Bill Ayers takes the final dirt nap, he'll spend eternity in.....(wait for it)....wingnut universe!
Where Rush Limbaugh is on the radio 24/7/eternity, and the only books to read are written by wingnut polemics such as Milton
Freedman, William Buckley or Frederic Hayek.
"And I wonder what your father would've made of your snitty "friend of the President" comment. He'd probably tell you to turn it down a notch."
What would TH's father have said about calling political opponents "wingnuts" and "douchebags", Chrissy?
"CC: so you have no problem with dedicating a book to, among others, Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy?"
Sirhan was just defending the rights of the Palestinians against the evil jooooish neocons, you wingnuts and douchebags.
Gary is correct.
There can be no rational defense of terrorism. The fact that liberals believe someone like William Ayers should be educating our children says volumes of their warped view of the world.
I am the guy who had the "discussion" with Ayers, during which I brought up the "guilty as sin ... " quote. He claimed he was merely citing a line said by Paul Newman's character in Hud.
I later kicked myself for forgetting the Sirhan Sirhan dedication, his wife's salute to Charles Manson, and the fact that I created the video "Dig It" which is linked above. Just as Ayers implored me to read his book, I should have recommended that he view the video. Maybe next time.
By the way, Billy also denied that he was recently denied entry to Canada, even though that fact is cited everywhere in the mainstream press and on blogs.
"He claimed he was merely citing a line said by Paul Newman's character in Hud."
One doesn't make a quotation unless it's appropriate to the context, else what's the point? Likewise, one doesn't build anti-personnel bombs unless one wants to hurt and kill people.
What a bullshit artist.
Boondock Saints suddenly comes to mind...
Paul, the gods were jostling for seats in the cosmic entertainment center and there was plenty of popcorn close at hand when they sent you down the escalator into Penn Station that day. I cannot imagine a better man to be sent into verbal jousting with a devil like Ayers.
Yo! CHAMBERS- you sir are foolish/stupid with your gadfly shtick...and now, mendacious. That's correct sir- you are deceitful . Why ? Ayers was a bomber- amoungst other "freedom fighter" - read coward - poses. He continues to represent idle , self-absorbed and spoiled behavior- must be the trust fund, eh! Do you have a trust fund that addles your "life's experience"...no? Oh sorry , I forgot-you have a Princeton degree...what absurd preening you display and inhuman to boot. Why? Clearly, you must have been an obnoxious little presence in class. This time you're beyond the pale...allow me: bombs are indiscriminate. Full stop- you DO know something about discrimination do you not ... you are akin to Billy boy , you are a bomb thrower who is so self-absorbed that you just wanna have a little fun- see what happens - throw a bomb. It would have been better not to have commented on this one...but, like Obama , you are too self-absorbed to reason properly...like Obama , you are a puerile narcissist. You are a petulant child.Give yer head a shake- one of Billy's bombs could have murdered one of your children or a friend passing by on the Greenwich Village street..then what of your low brow poses? Anything for an eternal victimhood...today sir, you are behaving like an a***ole!
I like to respond to their Che t-shirts with my
McLenin's "The Party is Over" t-shirt
Which can be obtained online here
But I got mine at a street bazaar in St Petersburg, no not Florida, the one at the same latitude as Ankorage Alaska ;-)
Just for the record - "Hud" is one of my all-time favorite movies and I have seen it a number of times. That quote appears nowhere in the movie, nor is it appropriate to the movie. The charcter of Hud in the movie is an amoral scoundrel but there is little criminal activity portrayed, nor cops/prisons/etc. In addition to being a scumbag, Bill Ayers is simply full of shit.