Sunday, December 10, 2006
The cure for global climate change
9 Comments:
By 
, at
Sun Dec 10, 08:53:00 PM:
And while these wealthy socialists wackos like AL GORE blabbers about global warming he still rides in his limos and has his private jets what a idiot gore is
By 
Gordon Smith, at
Sun Dec 10, 10:45:00 PM:
Hawk,
Do you think that AL GORE is a wealthy socialist wacko idiot?
Why you'd want to promote the views of those denying Global Warming doesn't make any sense at all.
By Purple Avenger, at
Mon Dec 11, 12:18:00 AM:
Who "denies" warming?
There are many who question what is causing it however. That Mars, Pluto, etc show similar (in the case of Pluto much more) warming suggests the moonbat answer may not be entirely correct.
By Ardeshir Dolat, at
Mon Dec 11, 04:59:00 AM:
I do apologise for posting off the topic. I am campaigning to save the life an Iranian girl, Delara Darabi, who is on death row in Iran. About three or four years ago, Delara and her then boyfriend/fiancé, were planning to get married. Since they were very poor, they had decided to help themselves to some of the wealth of a relative. During the burglary, the wealthy relative unexpectedly returned to the house and was accidentally killed in the struggle. Delara was forced/persuaded by her fiancé to admit to the manslaughter to save him from execution as they thought she would not be executed because of her age. Delara has been denying the killing and states that she is innocent. Delara is an artist and recently an exhibition of her paintings, “The Imprisonment of Colours”, which she has produced while in jail in Iran was held in Tehran. (You can see some her paintings on my blog @ http://ardeshird.blogspot.com/2006/10/from-behind-walls-of-my-prison-cell-i.html#links ). Delara was only 17 at the time of the alleged crime. Her conviction and the death penalty have been upheld again by the youth court and she is now facing death by hanging. I was surprised to find that unlike some other Iranian children on death row, there was a petition that was only signed by some 30 people. The campaign to save her life was not actively pursued and the petition was not distributed to as many sites as possible for people to sign. As the result, a negative message has been conveyed to the Islamic regime judiciary that they can go ahead and execute her as unlike other cases such as Nazanin, for whom over 220000 signatures has been collected. This is not the case. Delara is poor and unable to compensate the relative – there is a Shariah principle, ‘Ghesas’ in place in Iran where the convicted person can compensate the victim’s family and escape state punishment. However, as she is financially unable to do this, the only way the save her life is by an international pressure on the regime to commute her execution. She needs our support now as time is running out for her. Please sign this petition and please help to distribute it to as many sites as possible. Please!
The petition is at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/DL2222/petition.html
By TigerHawk, at
Mon Dec 11, 06:41:00 AM:
Screwy, you gotta relax.
I do believe that the climate is changing, and I also believe that there is some chance that human activity has caused some of it. You cannot get from that position to a view that we need a 90% reduction in greenhouse gasses in the next 24 years, which is the point of view of the author. We can't do that without unprecedented forced reductions in population, which is code for mass slaughter.
I think that the climate change activists hurt themselves in several ways. First, many of them give off the vibe, or even say, that they do not really like industrial society with its cars and modernization and rising global consumer class. That makes those of us who love that stuff a bit suspicious. Second, there are even some of them that don't like the fact that there are so many people on the planet. Those of us in our forties and fifties have heard the environmental catastrophe story so many times that we are a bit jaded. Go back and read "The Limits to Growth" and "The Population Bomb" and laugh, and remember that both were accepted as absolute revealed truth by the media and academic left when they were published. Fourth, the way that the climate-change people try to shut down or ridicule or ostracize the scientists who argue differently is really kind of creepy.
In fact, climate change does not really affect the arc of humanity, even if it will cause a fair amount of disruption while we adjust to new patterns of settlement. Humans are very adaptable, and will emerge successfully out the other end. The real threat is to biodiversity -- a huge number of species will die if there are big shifts in climate, and we will lose a great deal in that. I just think that if the situation is as dire as the climate change people say, there really is nothing we can do to reverse it. Die is cast, and we should focus our attention on preparing for the change.
Now, you might say that we would have more time to do that if we cut back on carbon output. One of the big sources is American coal-fired power plants (8% of world total, as I recall). I would replace them all with nukes as fast as possible. You cannot, however, find more than a tiny handful of enviromentalists who agree. What is their solution? Biomass.
By SR, at
Mon Dec 11, 08:30:00 AM:
...and what is biomass? Carbon.
Has Al Gore ever called for a total conversion to nuclear power? France has the small carbon footprint presicely
because of nuclear power.
Has Al Gore ever called for every US government vehicle to be electric?
When the enviros get serious about sacrificing their own comfort, maybe the rest of us will think they are serious. Or maybe not, maybe we will all continue to produce carbon dioxide like China.
By , at
Mon Dec 11, 10:38:00 AM:
How about if all the wackos from GREENPEACE and the various eco-freak groups and AL GORE to keep their flapping pieholes shut thats the biggist source of HOT AIR
By Gordon Smith, at
Mon Dec 11, 01:07:00 PM:
Hawk,
Well there's a serious take on the subject. I didn't think you had it in you.
"I just think that if the situation is as dire as the climate change people say, there really is nothing we can do to reverse it. Die is cast, and we should focus our attention on preparing for the change."
So let's pretend it's only half as dire as they say. What would you be willing to concede then?
I'm open to nuclear, but there's some nasty little side effects to take into account with that.
I guess that suggesting Americans cut back on consumption is out-of-bounds. I'm not talking about trading your Hummer in for a horse-and-buggy. I'm talking about conservation and acting responsibly.
It's irresponsible to ridicule the risk of global warming when there are behavioral changes we could make to mitigate the effects.
The rich will adapt a lot better than the poor to climate change, Hawk. So how about giving a damn about the rest of us and pretending you'd like your readership to behave responsibly, to be good stewards of the land.
By , at
Mon Dec 11, 07:04:00 PM:
The real threat is to biodiversity -- a huge number of species will die if there are big shifts in climate, and we will lose a great deal in that
Tigerhawk, while I agree with much of what you say, you've got that bit exactly ass-backwards.
As far as profusion and diversity of life is concerned, warm and wet is good and cold and dry is bad.
People get a bit confused about what happens when the world heats up. They think in terms of more deserts when they should be thinking more jungles. And where is there more biodiversity? In the cold dry deserts of Antartica or in the world's tropical rainforests.
Deserts are caused by weather, not climate. Mountain ranges and prevailing winds prevent moisture bearing clouds from reaching the desert and raining down all that life giving water.
A warm world is wetter because more water evaporates into the atmosphere from the oceans.
A cold world is drier and a world without CO2 in it's atmosphere and oceans would have very little life.
Kevin B
