Sunday, December 10, 2006
"Come with me into Macedonia"
Football too boring this time of year? Can't stand the idea of going to the mall? Then discuss the relevance of the following to current affairs (there is something in it for everybody):
In every circle, and truly, at every table, there are people who lead armies into Macedonia; who know where the camp ought to be placed; what posts ought to be occupied by troops; when and through what pass that territory should be entered; where magazines should be formed; how provisions should be conveyed by land and sea; and when it is proper to engage the enemy, when to lie quiet and they not only determine what is best to be done, but if any thing is done in any other manner than what they have pointed out, they arraign the consul, as if he were on trial before them. These are great impediments to those who have the management of affairs; for every one cannot encounter injurious reports with the same constancy and firmness of mind as Fabius did, who chose to let his own ability be questioned through the folly of the people, rather than to mismanage the public business with a high reputation.
I am not one of those who think that commanders ought at no time to receive advice; on the contrary, I should deem that man more proud than wise, who regulated every proceeding by the standard of his own single judgement. What then is my opinion? That commanders should be counseled chiefly by persons of known talent, by those who have made the art of war their particular study, and whose knowledge is derived from experience, by those who are present at the scene of action, who see the enemy, who see the advantages that occasions offer, and who, like people embarked in the same ship, are sharers of the danger.
If, therefore, anyone thinks himself qualified to give advice respecting the war which I am to conduct, let him not refuse the assistance to the State, but let him come with me into Macedonia.
He shall be furnished with a ship, a tent, even his traveling charges will be defrayed, but if he thinks this is too much trouble, and prefers the repose of a city life to the toils of war, let him not on land assume the office of a pilot. The city in itself furnishes abundance of topics for conversation. Let it confine its passion for talking to its own precincts and rest assured that we shall pay no attention to any councils but such as shall be framed within our camp.-- General Lucius Aemilius Paulus (229-160 B.C.), Rome.
7 Comments:
By 
skipsailing, at
Sun Dec 10, 04:41:00 PM:
I wonder how this would sound in latin:
Opinions are like *ssholes, everybody's got one.
By SR, at
Sun Dec 10, 06:11:00 PM:
Jaw dropping. TH did you have to translate this in your Latin class in HS?
Sometime in the future GWB will be finally recognized as the commander in chief we are truly fortunate to have had.
By Assistant Village Idiot, at
Sun Dec 10, 11:02:00 PM:
Sir James Barrie wrote "The Old Lady Shows Her Medals," which opens with 4 English charwomen discussing the Great War. They all have opinions on the general staff of the military and proper strategy.
The play is in thpublic domain, and the scene starts here: http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/scottish-authors/james-barrie/echoes-of-the-war/ebook-page-02.asp
They know more than Howard Dean, though.
By Jason Pappas, at
Mon Dec 11, 11:53:00 AM:
By 
, at
Wed Dec 13, 12:18:00 PM:
I would not presume to question the commander-in-chief's tactics, though they do not seem to be effective. It is his strategy that I deplore.
By , at
Sat Jan 27, 11:59:00 AM:
Gee, Phrizz, and what strategy would you choose? Perhaps, appeasement? Regime Change wasn't the strategy; it was necessary. If you ask why, you are part of the uninformed to whom the Roman general was referring.
By Möbius, at
Sat Jan 27, 04:00:00 PM:
These words admittedly have a certain appeal and certainly experience in military matters should be a precondition for having influence on military matters. However, regardless of which war we talk about, in today's democracies the question of whether to go to war and when to end it is NOT A MILITARY MATTER.
There is such a thing as civilian control of the military.
Once the civilian leadership decides that there is no war to be fought (here the not so small issue of whether we have/had a choice in this matter, over which there is much disagreement, comes into play) it is utterly irrelevant HOW the generals believe the war should be fought.
