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Friday, December 23, 2011

Ann on Newt 

Regarding Newt, Ann has, er, misgivings:

Every few years, heinous Democratic policies — abortion, gay marriage, affirmative action, Hillarycare, Obamacare, to name a few — compel previously uninvolved Americans to leap into politics. This is great, except for two things: (1) We have to get heinous Democratic policies first; and (2) newcomers have short memories, sometimes no memories at all. The second point is the only possible explanation for why some conservatives seem to view Newt Gingrich as the anti-Establishment outsider who will shake up Washington. Newly active right-wingers would do well to spend a little more time quietly reading up on Newt’s political career, and a little less time shaking their fists at some imaginary “Establishment” — which now apparently includes Michael Savage, Mark Steyn, Christine O’Donnell, Ramesh Ponnuru, Glenn Beck and me, all of whom oppose Newt’s candidacy. (By the way, guys, are we car-pooling to the next Trilateral Commission meeting? I have a thing at the World Bank that same day.) Only then will they realize that Gingrich would be a disaster for everything they believe in.
I officially recommend the whole thing. Especially if you are one who thinks we would not put victory at great risk in nominating Newt to run against Barack Obama.

9 Comments:

By Anonymous Ignoramus, at Fri Dec 23, 01:27:00 PM:

A nutless monkey could beat Obama in 2012. But any Republican running right now can lose, except, ironically, Jon Huntsman. He's Mitt Romney without the baggage, and a better politician. And he's been outside the country for more than a Mormon tour.

Ann says that Newt's unelectable. But Mitt's more unelectable. Newt would have a good fighter's chance. No one here -- especially not Old Fan -- has countered what Anon Attorney and I have been saying about "Carried Interest".

Seriously, if electability is your #1 criterion, why not Huntsman?

ps Ann gets beat up in the comments to her piece, including for her prior public comments that Romney is unelectable.  

By Anonymous scottJ, at Fri Dec 23, 02:15:00 PM:

Ok, so far we have:

Romney Unelectable because of MassCare and Wall Street credentials.

Newt Unelectable because he strayed too close to Pelosi's couch and really isn't a DC outsider.

Perry is unelectable because he can't debate well, and he is from Texas.

Bachmann Unelectable because she has too many kids and a tendency to spout Constitutional Legalism.

Santorum Unelectable because his campaign can't get any traction.

Huntsman Unelectable because he continues to be relatively unknown and Utah is a small population state.

Palin Unelectable because the MSM was successful in tainting her with the stupid hick meme and the idea that women wouldn't like her because she is pretty.

So why even try? That is what the MSM/Democrat machine wants Republicans to think. Don't fall for it!

ANY of these candidates would be better than letting the Obama crowd continue to install the patronage system they perfected in Chicago. ANY of these candidates would select more palatable Supreme Court Nominees. ANY of these candidates would press for a more market driven approach to the economy. And with the proper support/cajoling from a conservative House and Senate, ANY of these candidates would do more to right the ship than four more years of corrosive progressivism.
Eyes on the prize, folks.

Ron Paul not included above because he is truly Unelectable and we really can't determine what he might do in office.  

By Anonymous Anonymous, at Fri Dec 23, 02:19:00 PM:

As I said previously, Obama wins in a landslide against Mitt Romney. Democrats will paint Romney, pretty accurately, as a modern day Gordon Gecko

The articles are starting to leak out in the MSM, like shots across the proverbial bow, about Romney's time at Bain.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/03/nation/la-na-romney-bain-20111204

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/12/19/as_romneys_firm_profited_in_sc_jobs_disappeared/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/us/politics/retirement-deal-keeps-bain-money-flowing-to-romney.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&hp&adxnnlx=1324310333-cNpg8YjJVxkuTWwpN%20FJ1g

And he's just announced he won't release his tax returns, almost certainly because they reflect that he paid taxes on carried interest and claimed large and questionable deductions:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/romney-says-he-wont-release-tax-returns/

Romney is the nightmare candidate for 2012. Outside the all-too-cozy world of the Washington-Wall Street Axis of Evil in high finance, Americans are unemployed, frustrated, and pissed off. This is a populist moment in political history, and Romney is as anti-populist as it comes--born to privilege, entitled, rich, connected, remote. The "mushy middle" political independents are not going to gravitate to a multimillionaire corporate raider who paid no taxes. Conservatives hate him, or at least his record of governance. And Obama and the Democratic Media Complex will wait to pull out the big knives until after he is nominated. I am convinced that the Dems want to run against Romney.

This election will be over by August if Romney is the candidate.

Now to Old Fan for some Romney cheerleading . . .  

By Anonymous Old Fan, at Fri Dec 23, 06:16:00 PM:

Ann Coulter is absolutely on target again, leading way ahead of the curve - supporting Mr. Romney who will win in the General Election. Newt is a disaster.

Ignoramus is now advocating for Mr. Huntsman?Obama's former selection for an Ambassador position?
* The reality is, in a recent poll sampling, 75% in Huntsman's home State support Mr. Romney, and only 25% support Huntsman. Devastating.

Scottj offers valid things, but I feel is mistaken about Romney. Romney's Free Market success is a political plus in the USA. The anti-Wall Street / anti-Capitalist nonsense is part of the problem (sadly Rick Perry is also peddling cheap class warfare). After seeing the dreadful return of the Democratic Partisan Malaise, Americans are eager for a strong Private Sector. Over 50% of Americans are invested in Wall Street. Romney is the serious professional, a true Capitalist who wants to help all succeed - Americans are seriously concerned about their economic health and future.

Also, the MA Health Care reform will be utilized as a positive against Obama. He is able to say, as opposed to the disastrous Obama, he led all sides to work constructively, to pass a legal offering via our treasured 'democratic' process - while Obama used bribes, extortion, threats, to force a small partisan element to impose their will on all. Romney will remind everyone MASS never raised taxation, never raided Medicare, or changed the 92% of the existing plans, got the other 8% to pay their fair share, etc. - Obama did the opposite, the very worst.

No cheerleading here, just sound political analysis based on strong conservatism: facts, objectivity, reason - without petty emotive bias. Could "Anonymous" include more Democratic Partisan sophistry as references? Again, Romney is ideal for the campaign in the General Election because of his serious Free Market credentials. He is a healthy symbol of the empowering US Capitalist system, having created opportunity, prosperity, etc. for so many. Romney is the proven Private Sector success vs. the dreadful Public Sector failure symbolized by Obama and the disastrous Democrats - (as well as the rest of the Beltway Insider mess). Democrats have repeatedly displayed fear of Mr. Romney's Candidacy, as the pathetic Axelrod's tweet account revealed again. Joe Klein's hit piece on Romney and Our Base was obvious.

The suggestion "conservatives hate" Romney is silly. For the fashion is not conservative: nor is resentment for a wealthy achiever, religious bigotry, geographical prejudice, or waging warfare against a perceived "establishment". Hate is not conservative either. Emotive frustrations are human, but conservatism is about a clear vision of fact, using sound reason to determine the best path. Emotive fashion drives the disastrous Democratic Party, fostering hatred and division for political gain.

Besides, many don't appear to know Romney's record, including balancing an inherited budget deficit of 3 Billion, cutting taxation 19 times, empowering local law enforcement to deal with illegal immigrants, etc. Some amongst us sadly cannot even distinguish between a State Level Mandate (which Perry provided), or a Federal Mandate (which Gingrich entertains - even recently on Beck's program).

"Newly active right-wingers would do well to spend a little more time quietly reading up on Newt’s political career, and a little less time shaking their fists at some imaginary “Establishment” — which now apparently includes Michael Savage, Mark Steyn, Christine O’Donnell, Ramesh Ponnuru, Glenn Beck and me, all of whom oppose Newt’s candidacy." Ann Coulter is right. Conservatism isn't the fashion some are projecting. Sen. Thune, Ann Coulter, Jack Welch, Gov. Haley, Rep. Rohrabacher, etc. are "conservatives" endorsing the Romney Candidacy, for good reason.  

By Anonymous Old Fan, at Fri Dec 23, 06:20:00 PM:

PS:
Merry Christmas to Tigerhawk and all the fine readers.  

By Anonymous Old Fan, at Fri Dec 23, 07:11:00 PM:

Reposted (some strange loss of the posting):

Ann Coulter is absolutely on target again, leading way ahead of the curve - supporting Mr. Romney who will win in the General Election.

Ignoramus is now advocating for Mr. Huntsman? Obama's former selection for an Ambassador position?

He reminds one of the fake INDY candidate which seemed designed to dilute the vote in the last NJ Gov. Race - hoping to save the awful Corzine.

* The reality is, in a recent poll sampling, 75% in Huntsman's home State support Mr. Romney, and only 25% support Huntsman. Devastating.

Scottj offers valid things, but I feel is mistaken about Romney. Romney's Free Market success is a political plus in the USA. The anti-Wall Street / anti-Capitalist nonsense is part of the problem (sadly Rick Perry is also peddling cheap class warfare). After seeing the dreadful return of the Democratic Partisan Malaise, Americans are eager for a strong Private Sector. Over 50% of Americans are invested in Wall Street. Romney is the serious professional, a true Capitalist who wants to help all succeed - Americans are seriously concerned about their economic health and future.

Also, the MA Health Care reform will be utilized as a positive against Obama. He is able to say, as opposed to the disastrous Obama, he led all sides to work constructively, to pass a legal offering via our treasured 'democratic' process - while Obama used bribes, extortion, threats, to force a small partisan element to impose their will on all. Romney will remind everyone MASS never raised taxation, never raided Medicare, or changed the 92% of the existing plans, got the other 8% to pay their fair share, etc. - Obama did the opposite, the very worst.  

By Anonymous Old Fan, at Fri Dec 23, 07:12:00 PM:

2nd Part:

No cheerleading here, just sound political analysis based on strong conservatism: facts, objectivity, reason - without petty emotive bias. Could "Anonymous" include more Democratic Partisan sophistry as references? Again, Romney is ideal for the campaign in the General Election because of his serious Free Market credentials. He is a healthy symbol of the empowering US Capitalist system, having created opportunity, prosperity, etc. for so many. Romney is the proven Private Sector success vs. the dreadful Public Sector failure symbolized by Obama and the disastrous Democrats - (as well as the rest of the Beltway Insider mess). Democrats have repeatedly displayed fear of Mr. Romney's Candidacy, as the pathetic Axelrod's tweet account revealed again. Joe Klein's hit piece on Romney and Our Base was obvious.

The suggestion "conservatives hate" Romney is silly. For the fashion is not conservative: nor is resentment for a wealthy achiever, religious bigotry, geographical prejudice, or waging warfare against a perceived "establishment". Hate is not conservative either. Emotive frustrations are human, but conservatism is about a clear vision of fact, using sound reason to determine the best path. Emotive fashion drives the disastrous Democratic Party, fostering hatred and division for political gain.

Besides, many don't appear to know Romney's record, including balancing an inherited budget deficit of 3 Billion, cutting taxation 19 times, empowering local law enforcement to deal with illegal immigrants, etc. Some amongst us sadly cannot even distinguish between a State Level Mandate (which Perry provided), or a Federal Mandate (which Gingrich entertains - even recently on Beck's program).

"Newly active right-wingers would do well to spend a little more time quietly reading up on Newt’s political career, and a little less time shaking their fists at some imaginary “Establishment” — which now apparently includes Michael Savage, Mark Steyn, Christine O’Donnell, Ramesh Ponnuru, Glenn Beck and me, all of whom oppose Newt’s candidacy." Ann Coulter is right. Conservatism isn't the fashion some are projecting. Sen. Thune, Ann Coulter, Jack Welch, Gov. Haley, Rep. Rohrabacher, etc. are "conservatives" endorsing the Romney Candidacy, for good reason.  

By Blogger TigerHawk, at Fri Dec 23, 07:41:00 PM:

I rather like Huntsman, and wish that he could overcome his one flaw: That he has not figured out how to run an effective campaign. But he is Romney -- the conservative candidate of non-crazy competence and intelligence -- with more qualifications and less baggage. But, sadly, a far less effective campaign.  

By Anonymous Old Fan, at Fri Dec 23, 11:26:00 PM:

Thanks Mr. Tigerhawk. It is interesting.

His acceptance of the Obama's Ambassador position conveyed a very poor political vision, especially misreading the Democratic Partisan's true offering as President. Especially if he was thinking of running for President.

I receive conflicting accounts on his record, as some maintain his Governorship was greatly aided by the overwhelming dominance of the Republican controlled State Legislature. Others will strongly vouch for his credentials citing alternative basis for their position. The picture can seem puzzling, especially when he appears in an interview and presents himself as this robust independent.

A friend once joked Huntsman's appearance reminded him of the odd INDY entrance in the last NJ Primary. As if he was an intended distraction to blur and weaken the Romney offering. This seemed like quite a stretch, even as humor, knowing about his prior work.

Who knows, maybe years from now Huntsman could develop as a serious influence on the National Stage.

But as you can imagine, I don't view Romney with much baggage. Clearly imperfect, quite human. Something suggests, the past competition with Kennedy in MA, the Primary with McCain, etc., may actually turn out to be a healthy form of training for this difficult task upcoming in the General - it is going to be an incredibly tough Election. Holder's latest is a prime example of the folly ahead.

We shall see.

Again, wishing you, yours, the fine TH readers, the very best this special Season.  

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