Thursday, June 10, 2010
Damning with any praise
If this isn't poetic, I don't know what would be:
Hezbollah on Wednesday saluted veteran US reporter Helen Thomas's "courage" for her controversial comments against Israel, which sparked a furor and forced her to retire.
If some American racialist group had issued this statement, it would have made headlines in our own mainstream media, no doubt complete with implied shadowy connections to the Republican Party. There is no such attention when Hezbollah says something like this, which may explain why so many squishy transnationals think of these bastards as a legitimate political organization rather than a cancer on the world that must be destroyed.
CWCID: Glenn Reynolds.
14 Comments:
By 
, at
Thu Jun 10, 10:45:00 AM:
"One mans garbage is another man's treasure".
No, the cancer on the world that must be destroyed is Marxism. But yet at Princeton, Harvard, Yale and almost every single college and university here in America, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto is REQUIRED reading!!!
The Cancer of this World is Marxism. Marxism has killed more people than anything! Yet, nobody in America says anything about it.
President Barach Hussein Obama is a Marxist. Saul Alinsky, a mentor of his, is a Marxist.
You say nothing about this?
Cancer of the world? That must be destroyed?
Marxism.
By 
D.E. Cloutier, at
Thu Jun 10, 12:52:00 PM:
According to some scholars, Hezbollah was formed in response to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon.
Helen Thomas's parents were Lebanese immigrants from Tripoli, Lebanon. Her father's surname--Antonious--was changed to Thomas at Ellis Island.
The fact that Helen Thomas agrees with many people in the land of her forefathers doesn't surprise me.
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 02:04:00 PM:
Where would be be if our entire country followed the allegiances of their previous homelands? When you come to America you leave those previous alliances behind to become American, loyal only to America.
Helen Thomas portrayed herself as a bigot and got caught. You can attempt to mitigate it all you want, but she is a bigoted Liberal and now the truth is out.
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 02:57:00 PM:
Here is the article quoted in full.
"Hezbollah on Wednesday saluted veteran US reporter Helen Thomas's "courage" for her controversial comments against Israel, which sparked a furor and forced her to retire.
“Respected American journalist Helen Thomas's answer shows ... a courageous, bold, honest and free opinion which expresses what people across the globe believe: that Israel is a racist state of murderers and thugs," Hezbollah MP Hussein Moussawi said in a statement. (AFP)
This reminds me of the late Tony Snow, in his capacity as Bush’s press secretary, replying to a Helen Thomas comment during the 2006 Israel- Hezbollah conflict. "Well, thank you for the Hezbollah view…"
Recall that Hezbollah is considered responsible for the 1994 bombing in Argentina which killed 85 Argentine Jews and injured hundreds.
By Dawnfire82, at
Thu Jun 10, 03:09:00 PM:
Hezb Allah was founded during the Iranian Revolution, in Iran.
It was expanded to Lebanon in 1982 to kill Jews and expand the Revolution. Most Lebanese Shi'a actually *welcomed* the Israeli invasion because the local Fatah fighters that Israel came into to fight had been "taxing" them, taking their women, and using their homes as arms caches and attack points.
Not all that different from how Hezb Allah in Lebanon behaves now, actually. In with the new boss, same as the old boss...
By D.E. Cloutier, at
Thu Jun 10, 03:11:00 PM:
MDT: "When you come to America you leave those previous alliances behind to become American, loyal only to America."
"Loyal only to America" does not necessarily mean "loyal to Israel."
Leave "those previous alliances" behind? It doesn't work that way anymore. There are too many hyphenates these days--Arab-Americans, African-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, Mexican-Americans, etc. And we no longer object to dual citizenship in many cases. Meanwhile, one of my Jewish friends who was born in Pennsylvania told me candidly that he would fight for Israel in a war between Israel and the United States. And so it goes.
I totally disagree with the opinions of Helen Thomas on just about everything. But I wore an American military uniform to defend her right to express her opinions, and I see no reason to stifle free speech now.
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 04:43:00 PM:
DEC:
I totally disagree with the opinions of Helen Thomas on just about everything. But I wore an American military uniform to defend her right to express her opinions, and I see no reason to stifle free speech now.
So who is stifling her free speech? People are freely expressing her opinion of what she said. People have as much to express their opinion of what Hezbollah's friend Helen Thomas says, as Helen Thomas has a right to say what she did.
By D.E. Cloutier, at
Thu Jun 10, 05:16:00 PM:
Goy Boy: "People have as much [right] to express their opinion of what Hezbollah's friend Helen Thomas says, as Helen Thomas has a right to say what she did."
Really? Ya think? Don't waste my time telling me the obvious.
You already know the answer to your question.
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 06:36:00 PM:
DEC:
Really? Ya think? Don't waste my time telling me the obvious.You already know the answer to your question.
So state your position. My position is that Helen Thomas's free speech was not stifled.
I will leave an extended discussion for later, if it is needed.
Thank you for correcting my having left out [right].
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 10:58:00 PM:
1) Helen Thomas is a dingbat. She's been a dingbat for a long time. Her comments crossed a line when she said " ... and Germany." It was a dumb thing for anyone to say. But she didn't put anyone in an oven.
2) Should she have been fired? Pause before leaping. She should have been eased out years ago ... because she's a dingbat! But there are elements out there that "want to be offended" and drove her to be fired. Hold that thought.
3) In public, a goyim like me couldn't criticize any single thing Israel has done without the American Jewish Thought Police being all over me. Cardinal Park's recent harangues here confirmed this to me -- he wins the June 2010 Alan Dershowitz Award for Righteous Indignation. Hold that thought.
4) The US - Israeli relationship is way too one-sided, and has been for over 30 years. It's difficult for any US public figure -- politicians especially -- to criticize Israel without paying a cost -- because of the "Cardinal Park factor." This has gotten out of hand -- and I don't think it has served Israel's long-term interests. Two years ago I thought the danger to Israel was the US going isolationist. It's worse than that now I fear -- see my next point.
5) I'm a lukewarm fan of Israel on a good day. But she is an ally -- I want to support Israel right now. [ I do -- honestly.]
I fear forces are conspiring against her. [Putin smiles] I've ranted about this here for awhile. This risk mounts day by day. You can see it, if you forget Helen Thomas for a moment and just go look -- preferably away from source like The New York Times. Our US leadership is incompetent on this, or worse. I could give more detail in this vein -- but no one has followed my lede before -- instead it's been easier for you over-educated assholes to just beat Helen Thomas like a birthday piñata.
What I fear is what I want to stop. The next intifada starts in 28 Days -- a shooting war to follow. I'm a staunch supporter of Israel right now, because of this.
6) If I was an agent in the US working for Putin I'd say the deeper political sentiment is "We've got enough problems at home." "Israel can't count on US political support. It's mostly a mile wide and an inch deep." The Jews fucked up and backed Obama. Time to move your big pieces in The Great Game.
ps. It's a lot more fun to think about Sarah Palin than Helen Thomas ... (my Anon line, by the way.)
pps. If the likes of Cardinal Park tries to guilt me on anti-semitism again, you've lost my support -- forever. I've got enough to worry about. Move to Israel if you care that much.
By , at
Thu Jun 10, 11:10:00 PM:
The right to free speech should not be hindered. Nor should the consequences of having made your views known.
Try free speech sometime. Stand up and say something truly offensive in public. People seem to take stuff that real serious. They react. Free speech says you can say it, it doesn't excuse you from the reaction.
By Dawnfire82, at
Fri Jun 11, 02:29:00 AM:
"If the likes of Cardinal Park tries to guilt me on anti-semitism again, you've lost my support -- forever. I've got enough to worry about."
Lol!
"Move to Israel if you care that much."
Wow, someone telling a Jew to get out of their country based on said Jew's spoken opinion. What an ironic shock.
By Gary Rosen, at
Fri Jun 11, 04:30:00 AM:
"In public, a goyim like me couldn't criticize any single thing Israel has done without the American Jewish Thought Police being all over me."
Right, that's why the MSM is so one-sidedly pro-Israel. What color is the sky in your world?
By Don Cox, at
Fri Jun 11, 05:12:00 AM:
"When you come to America you leave those previous alliances behind to become American, loyal only to America."
In theory, maybe. But for example there were German-American demonstrations in favor of Hitler at the beginning of WW II. I think it takes a couple of generations for the melting to complete.
