Wednesday, November 25, 2009

Love it or leave it 

Senator Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) would probably like to redo this interview with CNSNews.com, the low light of which was his statement "if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else,” made in defense of the decision to try KSM and others in a civilian criminal court in Manhattan:

While it is oddly entertaining to see or hear a Democratic Senator use the "America, love or leave it" line, generally speaking, national politicians don't want to go there. It makes them sound like MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who earlier this year suggested it was time for former VP Dick Cheney to leave the country.

More to the point, even the people involved in the decision to try KSM in New York can't precisely state what "the system" is for such cases in the future. My impression of Attorney General Holder's comments was that the venue for each case would be considered individually, so Senator Conrad did not need to get so huffy.



By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wed Nov 25, 08:35:00 PM:

Just a hunch but my guess is that Senator Conrad voted in favor of the legislation setting up the military tribunals.

If not, I do know that one very famous ex-Senator did. Favorably so. He's current living in public housing on Pennsylvania Avenue.  

By Blogger SMGalbraith, at Wed Nov 25, 09:11:00 PM:

"if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else,”

Yes, we believe in the "system", Senator.

The "system" that established the military tribunals (that would be Congress) and approved of by the President (this one and the former one) and that has been used throughout our history to try such individuals.

What "system" are you talking about?  

By Blogger Assistant Village Idiot, at Thu Nov 26, 09:29:00 PM:

The objection to the "America-love it or leave it" idea was never the sentiment, but that the wrong people said it first. Of course that's what they want, though they can't admit it to themselves. We should change, or we should leave. That has been the unsubtle message for decades.  

By Anonymous Boludo Tejano, at Fri Nov 27, 09:11:00 AM:

If Senator Conrad believes that those who want a military trial for KSM should go to somewhere else, is he also advocating that Senator Barack Obama do likewise? Here Senator Obama states that KSM will receive a military trial.  

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