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Thursday, May 08, 2008

Post-Partisanship 

I wonder, if it evolves as it now appears that Obama will represent the Democratic Party in the November elections, who do you think the Clintons would prefer to see in the White House - Obama or McCain?

10 Comments:

By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu May 08, 11:35:00 AM:

They want whichever person is most likely to serve a single term. Party affiliation really doesn't enter into it.  

By Blogger Diane Wilson, at Thu May 08, 03:56:00 PM:

Obama and McCain are both likely to be one-term presidents. For different reasons, perhaps.  

By Blogger Escort81, at Thu May 08, 05:24:00 PM:

Diane -

But Hillary won't (or won't be able to) run a 1980-style Ted Kennedy campaign against an incumbent Obama. It is hard to imagine a scenario in which a Democrat would challenge a sitting President Obama in 2012 the way Teddy went after Carter. One of our cities would have to be smoldering from a terrorist attack, I would guess.

No, the Democratic Party would be fully invested in an Obama presidency, much in the same way Republicans were in the Bush presidency, for better or worse.

If Obama wins, and Democrats pick up significant numbers of seats in the House and Senate, the 2008 election may be seen as a tectonic and demographic shift in U.S. politics, if the majorities hold for any period of time. If Obama has coattails throughout an eight year term, it will no longer be a centrist to slightly center-right country. That doesn't even consider judicial appointments, it's simply a statement about the changed nature of the electorate if that comes to pass -- 8 years of Obama and clear majorities in the House and Senate as far as the eye can see. It is also a break from the notion of divided government that has been the case more often than not during my lifetime (one party in the WH, the other controlling the legislature).

Obama would have to be a truly great president -- Mt. Rushmore-esque -- for that scenario to unfold, and would have to grow into the job and step well beyond and outside of some of his past Chicago associations. He'd also need to come up big in a major crisis or two.  

By Blogger Georg Felis, at Thu May 08, 05:38:00 PM:

Knowing Hillary, she has plans for both contingencies:
With President McCain she is on the path to becoming Senate Majority Leader, giving her several years to twist arms and milk millions in cash out of the system in preparation for her 2012 run.
With President Obama much the same, only much more cash to be had, and the possibility of getting some of her ideas enacted into law.
Either way, it will make her cattle futures payoff look like raiding the cookie jar.  

By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu May 08, 09:26:00 PM:

Poor Obama has been getting his nads kicked in lately by sewage workers disguised as political pundits. The ever increasing shenanigans of the media and their paid slack-jawed mouth breathers is getting wackier by the day. Joe andd the guy named after hemmoroid medicine have been given free reign to confuse and confound like nattering butt trumpets and there doesn’t seem to be anybody or anything to help us all escape. Is there any escape from noise?

My first reflex his to stomp them like roaches, but I resist the temptation to get ensconced in the legal system and besides, they got the wrong kind of bars in those places. And with McCain hiding under the nearest neo-con skirt, things have been, to a certain extent, crazy and untenable.

It’s difficult, but I’ll try to put in some context, but I just get blotto and I can’t explain it in words without my head spinning like the time I got off the Hammerhead at the Corn Festival, just before my older brother yakked all over the girl who waited patiently in line with the pretty white flowered summer dress and the rather fetching tits, ruined for all time by pre-chewed chunks of hot dog, candy apple, and approximately 3 ears of corn slathered in over-salted butter and speckled with what appeared to be pepper but after further investigation, turned out to be fly doo-doo, as there was a bottleneck in the production line betwixt the casual boiling of the ears and the butter slathering station. And money wasn’t involved nor were there any reported labor disputes. I’m sure in time that pubescent young lady, through faithful attendance at a local Psychologist’s office, who was later incarcerated due to several well fingered photo albums of young patients who were photographed in the office restroom without their consent, and her faith in an omnipresent powerful being alleged to be the creator of all things but too disinterested in any way as to impede in the reception of yak upon that pretty dress, as the dress ultimately found it’s final resting in the big dumpster behind the Mayfair market. She eventually resigned herself to live in the now, as she, like Ingmar Bergman, finally deduced that god is silent, so what’s the fucking point anyway.

Persevere  

By Blogger SR, at Thu May 08, 11:52:00 PM:

Pretty brave to put your name to that one, Carl.  

By Blogger Dawnfire82, at Fri May 09, 10:24:00 AM:

It's like reading the works of that crazy beat poet guy who wrote off the wall stuff without punctuation. Can't remember his name though...  

By Blogger Viking Kaj, at Fri May 09, 12:41:00 PM:

Chelsea?  

By Anonymous Anonymous, at Fri May 09, 07:29:00 PM:

I'll be the first to say it:

Hillary will run in the general election as an independent.  

By Blogger Dawnfire82, at Sat May 10, 12:47:00 PM:

Oh I hope you're right...  

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