Saturday, May 12, 2012
Please donate or just send good vibes to Young Women for Change. It's an exceptionally worthy cause.
UPDATE: Noorjahan sent me a Facebook message saying that their primary goals are to end torture and rape, and to get women into schools. The dress code is mandatory and isn't on their priorities list.
So what this program is about is the Marxization of Muslim women! Why should a supposedly "conservative" website be promoting the subversion of a religious culture for?
Is this right? Do not people deserve to run their own countries? Is this not why Osama bin Laden attacked this country, because of it undermining and sabotaging Muslim culture?
But that's okay, America must spread its Judeo-Masonic-Bolshevist culture everywhere. The first point of attack is the supposedly "liberation of women".
Look how messed up America is and we really need to spread that abroad. America is one dysfunctional, vulgar place.
I for one would not be supporting it. Leave the Muslims alone. We have enough problems than worrying about what is going on half-way around the world.
Yeah, America would be a lot better off if women got married when they were 13, were compelled to dress like nuns, were forbidden from voting or even holding a job, couldn't read, couldn't drive, couldn't talk to any male besides their husband, and men were allowed to beat them.
So much better.
Don't you just love the hypocrisy of the left.
I went into our downtown library and complained about the two gay magazines on the shelf. The Liberal Leftist Library director sneered and laughed in my face and told me "You can't enforce your morals on other people".
This is how the Left deconstructed Christian culture. "You can't enforce your morals on other people".
Haven't you also heard from the Left the evils of Colonialism and how it destroys the "indigenous people". Does not the Left scream bloody murder about "European Imperialism".
Yet, what is going on here? The Left IMPOSING its values on a foreign culture. See, it is all-right when it is Marxist values and norms. They can impose them at will.
Marxist Culture is Unisexism. America practices that. Christian culture demands that women wear dresses and have their heads covered in church and that some jobs that are manly be forbidden to them. No woman should be a politician or a lawyer. That's Christian Culture.
What Aegon is doing is enforcing and promoting Marxist culture upon a Muslim country. He wants to impose his Marxist values upon a Islamic culture.
Hypocrite. Why don't you Aegon, take the Leftist mantra yourself "You can't impose your Marxist values on other people"! If it is good for the gander---it ought to be good for the goose!
Looks like a great idea Aegon, promoting tolerance and non-violence in Afghanastan. Since it clearly isn't possible though, a better idea might be to offer free plane trips out of that hellhole to all Afghan women. If the pedophile homosexual sociopaths among the male population, or as Wheeler refers to them "the moral and religious ones", want to stay that's up o them. But get the women out and save their lives.
I tend to agree with much of what Mr. Wheeler states. The inconsistencies in dogma and actions by those on the Left is astounding at times. However, I depart somewhat from Mr. Wheeler in that I do believe what happens in other countries does have an impact on us here within our own borders. I am very concerned by the degree to which many today seem to think our laws (let alone culture and mores)can and should be influenced by other cultures and laws outside our jurisdiction. Included in these are things such as the U.N and Sharia laws. We have duty to protect our soverignty and culture and hope that we always do so.
I didn't think WLW would be such a fan of moral relativism. Aren't you the one who says that the only Good and Order and Law in the world is the one created by God and given to man by people who claim to hear him?
I'm a libertarian. People should be allowed to do what they want as long as they don't make it someone else's problem. Imposing your religious values onto someone is wrong. Imposing your secular values is also wrong. I don't really know what that would be, except maybe peer pressure to have a lot of casual sex and drink a lot, whereas imposing your religious beliefs would probably involve judging you for all of your sinning.
This group is run by young Afghan women who are tired of being harassed on the streets every day, and forced into one variety of dress or another by threat of stoning. They even have a post on their blog that basically says "The level of modesty you exhibit in your dress, from hijab to burqa, should be your choice."
Explain to me again how that is more of an imposition, as in, FORCING you to do something, than any of the things I listed in my comment above.
And second of all, colonialism is just one huge grey blob of moral ambiguity. I will agree that in lots of cases, leftism manifests itself in the form of White Man's Burden, because all the poor brown people are completely helpless and get screwed over by The System through no fault of their own and as guilty white liberals it's our sacred DUTY to help them. I'll totally agree that there's quite a bit of hypocrisy in things that leftists do, and I'm sure that I qualify for a number of them when I don't stop to think.
While I believe that all the suffering caused by colonialism is bad (it's suffering, it's inherently bad), colonialism was beneficial to both parties involved in many cases, most cases where the British were involved. India would probably be much worse off if the British hadn't been a force there. So that's why I have no problem with telling Afghans that treating women badly and telling them to "know their place" is backward and wrong, because their personal beliefs have caused men to throw acid at their wives, and torture them by pulling out their fingernails and burning them with cigarettes for withholding sex. Then the WIFE gets put in jail for breaking the "moral crime" of saying no to her husband.
Making every effort to end that is the right thing to do, and I never thought conservatives who have such disdain for their culture would be against it.
Ignore Wheeler. And certainly don't treat him (her? it?) as representative of conservative thought.
"Making every effort to end that is the right thing to do"
You mean like conquest? Like forcing them to end their customs on pain of death, like the British did in India (that you cited with approval)? How many lives is this worth? Because that's what it would take. That's what it took in India, which was not as barbaric then as Afghanistan is now.
You're the one advocating a crusade to change their culture because it offends you.
Since we're going to get distracted by minutiae, I call point of order on the point of order:
Back to the program: what Dawnfire82 said.
Note, though, that some things are worth war and invasion to correct. But be careful, understand what it is that's being done, and understand further, that it's a fine line to impose a solution by force because the solution is the right thing to do and imposing a solution by force because the imposeur [sic] Knows Better.
Point of order.
We already invaded them. We're still there. And you're all completely okay with that. So I don't even know where all these questions are coming from of "would it be worth an invasion?" as if we have to do it all over from scratch.