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Sunday, February 20, 2011

Doctor's-NoteGate 


Blog-hounds know that liberal doctors have been handing out fraudulent notes to demonstrating Wisconsin teachers, who have called in sick so that they can protest reforms that would weaken the bargaining power of their union. Naturally, I have questions.

  • How would these same teachers react if doctors handed out fraudulent notes en masse to teenagers who wanted to cut their classes?

  • Are not these teachers essentially granting moral license to every kid in the state who thinks that school is unimportant enough to take seriously?

  • If you are too sick to teach, aren't you too sick to stand out in the cold shouting angrily at Republicans?

  • Aren't these doctors violating some sort of ethical or legal obligation? Ought that not call in to question their fitness to practice medicine? [UPDATE: Many people are asking this same question, and with facts. This is going to get ugly for some of these doctors. As well it should.]


  • Release the hounds.

    17 Comments:

    By Blogger JPMcT, at Sun Feb 20, 03:43:00 PM:

    Our medical community in central Virginia is a varied group of men and women covering every political persuasion on the map.

    I can't think of a single person who would give someone a fraudulent medical release.

    Sure, there are times when I will give a patient a little "slack" in returning to work after a major procedure...but I don't lie and I don't know anybody who does.

    The employers of these people should submit a complaint to their respective local branch of the State Board of Medicine with a demand for a written followup.

    I doubt that such an offense would result in a license action, but at the very least deserves public censure.

    We are not like lawyers, where 95% of them give the other 5% a bad name!!!  

    By Anonymous 996GT3Cup, at Sun Feb 20, 05:24:00 PM:

    I'm no Doctor, nor a "professional ethicist," but this is clearly an unethical action on the part of doctors.  

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sun Feb 20, 09:31:00 PM:

    The State of Wisconsin should investigate the 'sick days' taken by the teachers this past week.
    They need to verify those notes against the doctors' billing records.

    And the teachers with fraudulent notes should be punished for falsely receiving sick pay and for lying.

    full disclosure: As a high school senior, I did 'see' a doctor at Riverfront Stadium on Opening Day.  

    By Anonymous tyree, at Mon Feb 21, 02:20:00 AM:

    These Doctors and teachers committed fraud to aid their political cause. The unions are also us supported by the International Socialist Organization. The Democrats in the state legislature refuses to do the job they were elected to do and have fled the state. President Obama supports them.

    Yeah, we will see how that works out for him.  

    By Anonymous E Hines, at Mon Feb 21, 08:48:00 AM:

    Sure, there are times when I will give a patient a little "slack" in returning to work after a major procedure...but I don't lie....

    So, it's possible to be only a little bit pregnant. There are big lies and little lies, serious lies and trivial lies, but they're all lies.

    Eric Hines  

    By Anonymous Davod, at Mon Feb 21, 08:53:00 AM:

    Another Federal Administration and Justice Department and the Feds might be after them for fraud. As it is, Justice will probably defend their right to do this.  

    By Anonymous davod, at Mon Feb 21, 08:55:00 AM:

    I bet the Feds are getting ready to sanction Wisconsin anyway.  

    By Anonymous Mike, at Mon Feb 21, 09:18:00 AM:

    As a Nurse Intensivist who writes these kinds of notes for either patients or their attending family members I can tell you it's completely dishonest for any licensed professional to do this. In addition to reporting these physicians to the state (WI) licensing authority they should also be reported to Joint Commission.  

    By Anonymous Mike, at Mon Feb 21, 09:18:00 AM:

    As a Nurse Intensivist who writes these kinds of notes for either patients or their attending family members I can tell you it's completely dishonest for any licensed professional to do this. In addition to reporting these physicians to the state (WI) licensing authority they should also be reported to Joint Commission.  

    By Blogger Assistant Village Idiot, at Mon Feb 21, 09:22:00 AM:

    Eric Hines ---

    And what field do you work in? I'm betting we could disassemble its standard practice, which you buy into, without much difficulty.  

    By Anonymous SouthernRoots, at Mon Feb 21, 10:50:00 AM:

    Two things. If these doctor's saw the people at these rallies, they could confirm an illness. However, I don't think they can ethically claim that those people have recovered from the illness they witnessed to be well enough to be back in a classroom with the children.  

    By Blogger Assistant Village Idiot, at Mon Feb 21, 10:10:00 PM:

    Following SouthernRoots, I'd be happy to write them a note for a psychiatric diagnosis of narcissism. Writing the back-to-work note would be a little tougher...

    wv: "ducked" Occasionally, the punchlines just write themselves.  

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue Feb 22, 09:29:00 AM:

    I'll bet the supervisors and managers of unionized employees are smiling. They've dealt, for years, with fake medical excuse notes and falsified opinions in workers' comp cases.
    Further, why should the DMV guys who sell fake documents to illegal aliens be the only union guys in government to make some bucks from selling fake representations?  

    By Blogger Georg Felis, at Tue Feb 22, 09:36:00 AM:

    Far too easy. If this were a Conservative bunch, getting faked doctor notes from a Conservative bunch of doctors, you can bet the Liberals would be in high form, screaming to the moon/NYT/CBS/MSNBC/Times.

    If anything is to come of this, it will have to be from companies and donors to the medical school in question. These doctors writing faked sick notes may suddenly find the support they expect from their school to be as shallow as a Liberal promise...  

    By Blogger Unlikely Hospitalist, at Tue Feb 22, 10:03:00 PM:

    A couple of things I would like to note. The AMA has come out with a position statement regarding this sick not business while UW DFM is scrubbing its site of doctors profiles that were involved with notegate, but only the ones who were caught on video. Strange.....

    http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/02/scrubbing-has-begun.html

    http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/02/breaking-news-ama-throws-support-behind.html  

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wed Feb 23, 11:02:00 AM:

    Hey, let's not be too hard on the lack of ethics of these union doctors! Once ObamaCare's death panel are established and working, the only way a white, middle-class old guy, who, it can be proven, once voted for Reagan, will ever get needed medical care is to bribe a democrat. Unions, of course, will have the authority to write waivers, but democrat union physicians will be able to jump folks to the top of the list. These are the guys we'll have to depend on to get needed medical care should the Kenyan's death panels ever become operational.
    These Wisconsin doctors are the core of ObamaCare!!!  

    By Blogger JPMcT, at Thu Feb 24, 12:50:00 AM:

    For Mr. hines information:

    "a little slack" means if your six weeks runs out on a Friday, I'll give you till Monday.

    or

    If you told your employer you'd be back in three weeks, but still feel like crap...I will extend your leave.

    Not big lies...and not little lies either,sir...just a little old fashioned compassion and common sense.

    I hope you never have to sample it..and if you do, I hope you get somebody who askes you how you feel, not what day it is.  

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