Saturday, October 25, 2008
The WFTV kerfuffle
A newscaster from WFTV in Florida grills Joe Biden, and the campaign puts the station out in the cold. My friend Fausta is, well, peeved.
Naturally, I have several reactions.
First, the questions were, indeed, obnoxious to the point of being ineffective. Whatever we think of Barack Obama, you have to get pretty fringy to think that he is actually a Marxist. Biden won that exchange when he asked "are you kidding me?" Silly Joe the Plumber questions crowded out an excellent opportunity to quote Biden back to Biden and really make him squirm.
Second, journalists ask equally obnoxious, left-wing conspiracy-oriented questions of Republicans all the time. The effect is different, though, because we are used to seeing aggressive questioning in that direction. You get the feeling that "people" think it is less cricket when the VRWC actually gets a television reporter to carry its water. That asymmetry gives the Obama campaign the air cover to cut off those few journalists who take the gloves off.
Third, Fausta is absolutely right that Joe Biden lied -- or is at least shockingly ill-informed -- when he said that the Obama campaign had given no money to ACORN. In fact, it has given $800,000 to a subsidiary of ACORN. Now, you might defend Joe on the ground that he was making a technically true point from a corporate governance perspective, but that strikes me as answer-parsing to a Clintonesque degree. Does anybody think that the corporate veil transfigures Biden's "not one cent" denial from total horse-pucky to something akin to truth?
31 Comments:
By 
Larry Sheldon, at
Sat Oct 25, 10:37:00 PM:
I don't know if he is a Marxist or not.
I know that he preaches Marisim, and that is all I cal about.
If you can't see that, then I have been mislead.
Time is to short for me to spend any more here.
By D.E. Cloutier, at
Sat Oct 25, 10:44:00 PM:
TH: "Whatever we think of Barack Obama, you have to get pretty fringy to think that he is actually a Marxist."
James Pethokoukis, U.S. News & World Report, 16 Oct 2008: "A while back I chatted with a University of Chicago professor who was a frequent lunch companion of Obama's. This professor said that Obama was as close to a full-out Marxist as anyone who has ever run for president of the United States."
I have no personal knowledge one way or the other. I never met the unidentified professor and I never had lunch with Barack Obama. But I would err on the side of caution.
Has Obama done anything to prove he's not a Marxist?
Hell, the Dalai Lama is a Marxist."I am a Marxist monk, a Buddhist Marxist," the religious leader said last January.
U.S. News & World Report link:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/16/did-barack-spread-the-wealth-obama-just-blow-the-election.html
Dalai Lama link (Buddhist Channel):
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=42,5778,0,0,1,0
By TigerHawk, at
Sat Oct 25, 11:14:00 PM:
In order to think that Obama is a Marxist, you have to think that he is to the left of the "social democrats" who have ruled Western Europe for most of the last 60 years, very few of whom were Marxists (even if they may have had the occasional Marxist mixed up in their parliamentary majorities). Whatever one thinks of Obama -- and I believe I have established my bona fides as an opponent of his -- there is little evidence to think that he is to the left of, say, Gerhard Schroeder (to pick a recent example) or the Socialist woman that Sarkozy beat the last time around. So, I stick to my view that it is "fringy" to regard Obama as a Marxist. He is a socialist of the Western European variety, and that's what he wants for the United States. But if he is a Marxist it must be buried pretty damned deeply.
By JPMcT, at
Sat Oct 25, 11:16:00 PM:
Not a Marxist?
I guess Karl must have rewritten his book....
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature"
"the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat"
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"
"I am not a Marxist"
If quotes and philosophy don't concern you, look at his background in Black Liberation Theology, sponsorship by the Ayers dynamic duo, support of radical social reformers in Kenya, etc. etc. etc.
If he's not a Marxist, he sure as hell is the closest thing to it that has ever run for the presidency.
By D.E. Cloutier, at
Sat Oct 25, 11:24:00 PM:
TH: " He is a socialist of the Western European variety"
And what are you basing that statement on, TH? Instincts and a hunch?
The guy's a mystery. He plays his cards close to his vest. He has produced few credible, long-time friends who can vouch for him.
If you want to gamble, go to Atlantic City.
By D.E. Cloutier, at
Sat Oct 25, 11:28:00 PM:
P.S. Let's look at the Dalai Lama's statement from the above link: "I am a Marxist monk, a Buddhist Marxist. I belong to the Marxist camp, because unlike capitalism, Marxism is more ethical. Marxism, as an ideology, takes care of the welfare of its employees and believes in distribution of wealth among the people of the state.”
Obama wants to spread the wealth around.
By TigerHawk, at
Sat Oct 25, 11:58:00 PM:
Was FDR a Marxist? He raised the top income tax rate to 90%. Obama has not proposed anything like that. Seems as though it dilutes the concept to apply it to Obama, but if it sets you free, so be it.
But I do agree that he is a mystery, and I think your point about his shortage of old friends (you have made it before, I believe) is interesting and troubling.
By 
, at
Sun Oct 26, 12:16:00 AM:
I dont think this reporter is a "fringy" journalist in the least.
I feel that the way obama campaign has used race class, and wealth in this campaign, it has been in a very marxist manner.
all of the major influences or acquientances in his life were marxist or promoted marxist ideas, and his policies have shown this fact.
if you lie down with dogs you pick up fleas.
so why throw this reporter under the bus? you have absolutely no proof she is "fringy." I suppose she is sympathetic to the vast underground right wing conspiracy i have heard for 15 yrs and just never seems to materilaize? maybe she is another U.S. citizen voter just fed up with the majority of the msm covering up for obama like they did for clinton and do not want another loser in the office. Lets face it, OBAMA IS NEVER GIVEN QUESTIONS OF SUBSTANCE AND BIDEN IS COMPLETLEY EXCUSED BY ANY GAFFS HE LETS LOOSE, BY A VERY FORGIVING & FORGETING MSM.
this reporter did an excellent job of being the first msm journalist to ask relevant questions. its not like this journalist is a fringy blogger or something.
cheers
By Craig Cox, at
Sun Oct 26, 03:24:00 AM:
Tigerhawk, maybe you can make it easy on everyone and tell us what more Obama would have to do to qualify as a Marxist. What belief would push him over the edge in your opinion.
By Craig Cox, at
Sun Oct 26, 03:24:00 AM:
Tigerhawk, maybe you can make it easy on everyone and tell us what more Obama would have to do to qualify as a Marxist. What belief would push him over the edge in your opinion.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 08:28:00 AM:
I think most of us are missing the most important, and potentially dangerous, quality about Barack Obama:
Obama is not a Marxist.
He's worse than that....
He's a NARCISSIST.
"The problem with 'social democrats' is that they frequently turn out to be neither socialist nor democratic."
By TigerHawk, at
Sun Oct 26, 10:19:00 AM:
Tigerhawk, maybe you can make it easy on everyone and tell us what more Obama would have to do to qualify as a Marxist. What belief would push him over the edge in your opinion.
Well, to be a Marxist you have to believe in the labor theory of value, meaning that the value in a good is equal to the sum of the value of all the labor that has gone in to that. From there it follows that to the extent "capital" earns a return it is expropriating value from labor. Therefore, all capital ought to be owned by labor. That's why Commies nationalize everything, because it is the only practical way in a large economy to give effect tot he principle that the "people" ought to own the capital since returns on "capital" are nothing but expropriation from the people.
Until I hear that Barack Obama is in favor of abolishing private property, instead of just taxing us to death, I'm sticking with my point of view that he is a social democrat and not a Marxist.
By TigerHawk, at
Sun Oct 26, 10:20:00 AM:
And, no, raising the tax on dividends from 15% to 20% or even 39% is not the same thing as abolishing private property.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 10:56:00 AM:
PS Castro NEVER ran as a communist but promoted class struggle. Once he achieved power he then went full-bore.
Obama has not been so militant as Castro but has been just as much a passionate instigator of class warfare, as well as a passionate promoter of those who promote class warfare, as they relate to the USA political climate.
Marxists in the country know that to acquire power in the USA, you do not throw bombs. Ayers in particular proved that point, although he did escape punishment due to legal technicalities. USA Marxists throw catch terms that pit the "have nots" against the "haves" and you coat everything in "social justice."
USA Marxists realize that you become part of the community, gain that communty's trust, then work on gaining power over those you dont have control or influence over.
Instead of looking at the speck on the wall, take a step back and look and the general tone of obama's campaign overall political wall. "Spread the wealth" says it all." To get lost in the details, and to look at every minutiae to determine if obama is a "true marxist" is very naive and dangerous. There are many forms of marxism in the world. The common denominator is the "share the wealth" mantra but it is promoted differently depending on the country one is in. For example, Italian marxisim is dramatically diff than Soviet marxists, and those diff to African and South American. Some are not atheistic AT ALL. Some are anti-american some not so much.
also, marxist tactics use the concept of TRUTH as not something objective but subjective, to be bent one way or the other, and holds absolutely no sway over their actions. The concept of truth is used as a propaganda tool or a debate catch term to deny the REAL TRUTH of a given situation.
lets face it, for the the obama campaign to deny in all the debates & news interviews, that they gave $800K to ACORN to GOTV, WHICH THEY IN FACT DID, is equivalent to any corruption i have ever read about, whether from left or right wing political groups. WHY DENY THIS RELATIONSHIP? WHY DENY THE TRUTH? WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE? AND WHY DOES THE MSM NOT INVESTIGATE OR POUNCE ON ALL THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND THE LIES?
By Clyde, at
Sun Oct 26, 10:59:00 AM:
"Who's writing your questions?" asked Joe Biden. Obviously not someone who is in the tank for Obama-Biden, which completely threw poor Joe for a loop. It's like, "How dare you ask me a serious question? Don't you know that you're supposed to lob the softball right over the middle of the plate for me? Where's my regular batting practice journalist?" Republicans are used to chin music from the presstitutes; Biden was just learning how the other half lives.
And whether you call them Marxists or Social Democrats or leftists or just plain ol' liberal Democrats, they are still way to the left of our traditional socioeconomic policy in this country, and more likely to engage in economic redistribution in order to push their own agenda. And they're trying to snow us and obfuscate until after they get elected. At that point, you'll see a Nixon administration with donkey ears.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 11:37:00 AM:
PSS
THE BIO OF Barbara West, the "fringy" reporter from WFTV. ...and yet obama, with his radical associations, is "presidential material." pfft. we have become the hosts of our own petard. really folks its getting scary out there. whenever anyone lays a glove of obama-biden, and you have conservatives as well as liberals try and defend obama-biden, as well as throw insinuations and cynicism at those who throw the punches....and this reporter could have been tougher if she wanted to. then what???
http://www.wftv.com/station/1874549/detail.html
For the past 16 years, I have served as health reporter and anchor for WFTV's news at noon and 5:30.
I have covered stories of people, politics and medical breakthroughs. My work has taken me across the country and around the world. From Washington, D.C. I covered the inauguration of President Bush and the impeachment of President Clinton.
When Hillary Clinton attempted to reform our health care system, I traveled to Canada to examine the Canadian national health care system as a possible model for the U.S.
From the heart of Ukraine, I was the only Western reporter to broadcast from inside the nuclear reactor building at Chernobyl on the 10th anniversary of the nuclear disaster there. I also uncovered the long term toll in increased incidence of cancer that the disaster had on the surrounding population.
Before relocating to Florida, I worked as the principal assistant to Peter Jennings during his years as the anchor for ABC's World News Tonite in London. I helped Peter cover such stories as the Royal Wedding of Charles and Diana and the hostage crisis in Iran where 52 Americans were imprisoned by their captors for more than 400 days.
I was given the 2002 Summit Award for community service by the Central Florida Women's Resource Center and was voted Best Health Reporter in an Orlando Sentinel newspaper poll. I also received an Emmy award for my reporting on women fighting breast cancer.
My work with Channel 9 and the Central Florida Fire Chiefs Association helped raise nearly 2.5 million dollars for the September 11th Fund which went directly to the families of the firefighters, police and Port Authority officers who lost their lives in the disaster. The City of New York Fire Chief noted it was the largest single contribution from any city or region in the country, including New York and L.A.
I have been active in helping the Central Florida Blood Bank raise blood donations. The twice-a-year blood drives here at the Channel 9 studios have helped raise an estimated 50 thousand units of blood.
Prior to working in television news, I was an assistant professor at the University of Vermont and represented Vermont in the Miss America Pageant. I hold a Master's Degree from the University of Vermont.
I am married to Wade West, an international media consultant to politicians, professionals and organizations. Together we often serve as auctioneers at various fundraising events throughout the state.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 11:50:00 AM:
Until I hear that Barack Obama is in favor of abolishing private property, instead of just taxing us to death, I'm sticking with my point of view that he is a social democrat and not a Marxist.
By TigerHawk, at Sun Oct 26, 10:19:00 AM
Obama is not in favor of abolishing private property, at least certainly not his own. On the contrary, he is keenly interested in adding to it:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122489917985769071.html
Mark J nails it in sixteen words.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 12:20:00 PM:
So, once again, the discussion drifts off into dreary "definition of terms."
Why are we even debating the term "Marxist?" Why not call Obama a "Communist?" Or a "socialist?" As if the person who defines these terms will win the golden cup.
The point is that during this entire VERY LONG campaign, Barack Obama has NEVER said anything good about the free-market system. He has NEVER said anything good about the American military. He has never, even once, mentioned a government program which he didn't like (with, of course, the enormously vague term "Bush policies," which apparently include his major sins with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and ACORN's "affordable housing" tantrums.) I hesitate over this point, and perhaps I am wrong: Obama has never said anything good about America.
Then you look at his buddies. Terrorists: not "just" Rich Boy Billie Ayers and his wifie Bernardette, but also (we now learn) the PLO terrorist Rashid Khalili. The "reverend" Wright ("GOD DAMN AMERICA"). ACORN, the hippie leftovers from the Welfare Rights organizations.
Then you ask: what would this man do in the White House? Would he be quick to protect America, and American interests? Would he be more interested in economic growth...or "fairness?" Just what people might he appoint as Cabinet members?
It's all unknown, but his basic sympathies are an open book. I regard Obama as a racist, anti-American, socialist creep: the most crooked politician since Clinton or Nixon.
You all can continue your fight over what a "Marxist" might be. Kolakowski wrote three volumes on the subject.
By TigerHawk, at
Sun Oct 26, 12:46:00 PM:
Hey, I wrote a post that was decisively right of center and generally critical of the reaction to this whole thing. I simply made th epoint that I thought the questions posed in the interview were not the best means for hammering Biden, and that the questions (not the person) were a bit fringy, especially insofar as they included the suggestion that Obama was a Marxist, which I think is asinine, just as it is when somebody on the left accuses the Bush administration of being "fascist." Both are terms that are meant to inflame, and neither are applicable in any genuine or useful sense to the people in question. It is possible to make Joe Biden squirm; a journalist who gets a golden opportunity should take it, rather than concede the high ground to Joe Biden by going all "red Godwin" on him.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 12:52:00 PM:
Even if he is merely a European socialist as opposed to an outright Marxist, isn't that sufficient reason to vote against him? How well have 35-hour work weeks, nationalized health care, and lax immigration policies worked for the Europeans?
To answer the question, find your nearest European expatriate. I work with a half-dozen of them, they're not hard to find.
We need more hardball questions to all of the candidates, not less. There's a simple word for media figures who fail in their duty to keep politicians honest: Accomplices.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 02:01:00 PM:
I wrote a post that was decisively right of center Indeed. Further right than David Frum. Edging into Chris Buckley territory. Your first reaction was disdain for a reporter who dared question Joe Biden, because if Obama hasn't said he's a Marxist on the campaign trail he must not be, never mind every friend and associate we've been able to find (and God only knows what he's still hiding).
You didn't call for the station's broadcasting license to be revoked, though. Fight on, stout conservative!
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 02:07:00 PM:
And I suppose Bill Ayers is not a Marxist?
And I suppose that the Black Liberation Theology preached by Rev. Wright is not Marxist?
And I suppose that Frank Marshall Davis was not a Marxist?
Or, maybe, Saul Alinsky was not a Marxist?
I've got news for you. Hillary Clinton is a Marxist. Nancy Pelosi is a Marxist. Most Democrats are Marxists. I'd call Joe Biden a Marxist, but, in reality, he's just a putz.
Barrack Obama IS a Marxist.
Perhaps you need a refresher on what Marxism is.
What do you suppose the term "progressive" means? "Progress" towards what, exactly?
Have you not heard the statements in favor of redistributing wealth? Have you not heard statements about the "inequality" of wealth in the U.S.? Have you not heard this tied to class (or, in this case, RACE) distinctions, inequality, and exploitation? Have you never heard the villification of corporations; of the wealthy; of capitalism? Have you not heard the arguments for nationalizing various industries; including oil, automobile, and airline industries?
Or, have you just not been listening?
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 02:27:00 PM:
In order to think that Obama is a Marxist, you have to think that he is to the left of the "social democrats" who have ruled Western Europe for most of the last 60 years, very few of whom were Marxists"
The interesting thing about Obama is that nearly all of his most long-lasting friendships are with avowed Marxists. His original political party registration in Chicago, with the New Party, was with a Marxist party. I'd argue that he is a Marxist, based on the personal evidence of his co-worker, his parents (who were both openly Marxist), his party registration and the fact that all of his oldest, closest friendships of which we are aware are with Marxists, even revolutionary Marxists.
As a Marxist, however, he doesn't necessarily have to be dogmatic and he may even be pragmatic about what can be accomplished. In other words, even if Obama would prefer to collectivize businesses wholly, he may recognize it isn't possible right away. He may simply be willing to settle for nationalizing healthcare and finance, both of which are industries well on the way to nationalization anyway, while perhaps opportunistically adding in auto production or other industries that are themselves pushing to be nationalized. Big capital-intensive companies have a natural incentive to like and want nationalization in a credit market like this one, anyway, so Obama doesn't really have to make any big speeches preaching collectivization, since the chairman of GM and the head of the AMA will do it for him.
I think you're being muddle-headed about Obama, and I'd like to see a serious attempt made to prove he isn't a Marxist, based on the available evidence.
By Craig Cox, at
Sun Oct 26, 02:36:00 PM:
Alright, Tiger, since you call Obama a meer Socialist, here is a definition of Scoialism straight from Webster's dictionary:
"a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state. A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done."
I know that none of this changes the fact that Biden is a dope.
By Sean Braisted, at
Sun Oct 26, 05:52:00 PM:
Biden was accurate when he said "we have not given one cent to ACORN to register a single voter," even if you include Citizens Services in the ACORN fold. They paid this organization money to canvass and GOTV in the days before the Ohio Primary. That is not the same as registering voters.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 08:19:00 PM:
...to ignore that ACORN was paid $800K by Obama to "canvas" and GOTV before the OHIO primary, also ignores the fact that that same work enabled the same people to vote in the general. So now its ok for ACORN and their thug neo-marxists to stuff the ballot box under the cover of "helping the poor and disenfranchised?" those are great terms that Marxists always use.
ACORN AND THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN have practiced much the same BALLOT-STUFFING CRAP THAT CHEVAZ DID IN VENEZUELA. fraudulent voter registration encourages, promotes, and helps commit voter fraud.
In regards to the b.s. about "cedeing the high-ground to biden" ???? biden does not come off very "high and moral" in this interview at all. biden comes off as a smug wiseguy. the journalist remained calm, cool, collect, respectful, and hardly hysterical as so many left wing msmers journalists aka obermann and matthews, et al...
in fact biden is the one that comes off cynical, hysterical, and insulting. the journalist is very professional & polite throughout the entire 5 minute interview. so the word "marxist" is used. Is that all of a sudden taboo for a reporter to use? She put the term in context with Obama's AND Marx's own words. It was analytical and succint. No b.s. or hysterics.
why is it that a presidential candidate who has been close, either through his own studies of marxist philosphy or actual personal relationships with marxists, IS NOT ASKED ALOT MORE IF MARXISM HAS AFFECTED HIS POLICIES? WHY IS THIS SUPPOSEDLY "FRINGE" JOURNALISM OR A "FRINGE QUESTION?" THAT IS THE SAME B.S. THROWN AT BLOGGERS WHO HAVE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK AT EXPOSING SOME VERY IMPORTANT STORIES OVER THIS CAMPAIGN AND SINCE THE LATE 1990S. THEY ARE BLOWN OFF AND STIGMATIZED WITH THE TERM "FRINGE" WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE PROVIDING A VALUABLE ROLE IN KEEPING A TRADITION ALIVE OF A FREE & INDEPENDENT PRESS. Barbara West simply is now a msm example of someone who doesnt believe in just covering up the candidate's faults or throwing comfort questions.
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 09:36:00 PM:
from
http://www.babalublog.com/archives/010231.html
Not here, right?
While America ponders the implications of Obama's "spread the wealth" philosophy, a couple of thousand miles to the south we can see how another leader who is an ardent proponent of the same philosophy is dealing with opposition to that ideology.
Venezuela's Chavez wants to jail rival
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez threatened on Saturday to imprison his main political rival, intensifying a campaign against a man he calls a crime boss just a month before he faces tough regional elections.
Opposition leader Manuel Rosales, who lost to Chavez in the 2006 presidential vote, is governor of the oil producing state of Zulia and is running for mayor of its capital Maracaibo.
"I am determined to put Manuel Rosales behind bars. A swine like that has to be in prison," Chavez said.
Chavez railed against Rosales at a gathering of businessmen in Zulia, urging the audience to vote against his rival for allegedly plotting to assassinate him, running crime gangs and illegally acquiring cattle ranches.
Chavez provided no specific evidence for the charges against the main leader of a fragmented opposition who has solid support in the oil-producing west of the OPEC nation.
Human rights groups say Chavez has increasingly exerted control over branches of power such as the judiciary and become intolerant of critics in almost a decade in power.
The former soldier typically takes to the offensive to stem a rise in support for potential rivals.
Chavez has been campaigning vigorously for his candidates in gubernatorial and mayoral races in the November 23 election but may lose some key posts as Venezuelans worry about crime, inflation and poor public services, pollsters say.
Chavez often makes dramatic threats in speeches without immediately carrying them out. Still, he does follow through on enough of them over time for his threats to concern the people he targets.
But of course, we have nothing to worry about here; this is, after all, America. It is not like Venezuela before Chavez was a free country with a democratic constitution that had built-in safeguards and checks and balances to ensure it would never fall into the dark abyss of a leftist totalitarian dictatorship.
Wait a second... oops, my bad. Venezuela was a free democracy. Nevermind.
Posted by Alberto de la Cruz at October 26, 2008 10:03 AM
By , at
Sun Oct 26, 09:56:00 PM:
"Marxist" can mean quite a few things, all perfectly "legit." Before Comrade Lenin was shipped back east by the Germans to complete the destruction of post-Czarist Russia, he spent his days sitting in Swiss coffee houses, writing critiques blasting variant or "deviant" forms of Marxism. He certainly saw major schisms where most of us would see nothing much. But all Marxist, they were. So I don't get too excited over the exact definition of Marxism; it comes in a variety of flavors. Basically Marxism is a fairly well-defined set of orthodoxies, both of goal and of method, but differs from other socialist movements mainly in the religious fervor of its adherents. The orthodoxies and central command structure are inviolate. This may be the major reason for Marxism's failure to get a major hold on American leftists. But it's always lurking, ready to pounce when opportunity obliges.
I can't agree that one must be "pretty fringey" to think that Barry O. might well be a fellow traveller. He sounds like one, and he acts like one, and, so far as we can tell, he thinks like one. To the contrary, you'd have to be pretty vacuous to miss it.
By submandave, at
Mon Oct 27, 12:29:00 PM:
re. ACORN and $800K:
When I heard Sen. Biden's answer I smelled tricky parsing. He said that their campaign never paid ACORN or anybody else to "register voters." The $800K was paid to "get out the vote." That this infusion of capital freed ACORN to use it's other assets in registration efforts is just the inconvenient (and unmentioned) consequence.
By , at
Mon Oct 27, 10:12:00 PM:
I must compliment WFTV on the employment of Barbara West. She has authenticated WFTV's fascist bona fides. Please continue to broadcast Ms. West as she makes your station a beacon for all of us who fight to stifle free thought, racial tolerance, and Christian values.
By Georg Felis, at
Tue Oct 28, 10:20:00 AM:
I have to compliment WFTV on their employment of Barbara West too (but without the sarcasm). If these questions had been asked earlier in the campaign, Obama would never had gotten the nomination, and we would have...um.... ick. President Hillary. Maybe it was best to wait until now to ask the tough questions.
Had they indeed been "unfair questions", Biden could have batted them out of the park instead of fumbling around like...well... Biden.
