Saturday, February 11, 2006
Anger management
A little unfair in a technical sense, in that no serious Muslim would disrespect Jesus, whom Muslims revere as a prophet. And the scimitar is also a problem. Today's Muslim extremists use box-cutters and bomb belts.
The Indianapolis Star and Gary Varvel had better beef up security.
CWCID: Myrtus.
13 Comments:
, atIf memory serves, the reason the Muslims revere Jesus is that after his resurection he came back and lead an army of Mulims in battle. It isn't for His Christian teachings.
By Darayvus, at Sat Feb 11, 10:05:00 PM:
Anon: That's Muslim apocalyptic, and most Muslims can take that or leave it. It's a reason but it's not the main reason.
Many Muslims, mostly Sufis, do study Jesus's words for their own sake; note especially "The Muslim Jesus" by Tarif Khalidi. Mind, I'll agree that this is somewhat "fringe" in Islam too.
Jesus is in the Qur'an because through him Allah gave the Jews their last chance at salvation. Some Jews became Christians and spread that error among the gentiles (19:37); others remained Jews and insulted Jesus (4:150-something). Allah then gave up on the whole line of Israel and went for Ishmael instead.
But yeah, no Muslim would mock Jesus. They'll mock his Cross seven days a week, though, because Jesus didn't die on it (but that's another rant).
By pst314, at Sat Feb 11, 10:37:00 PM:
I believe that Mohammed's idea of what Jesus did and said is rather at odds with the Bible in many other ways, too, just as some stories from the Old Testament appear in the Koran in rather fractured form. Not surprising, perhaps, given that Mohammed was illiterate and learned everything orally.
By Harrywr2, at Sat Feb 11, 10:38:00 PM:
"If memory serves, the reason the Muslims revere Jesus"
If my memory serves, and my theology is somewhat weak.
Mohammed is the "Second Coming".
Jews don't believe the first incarnation of the Son of God has arrived,
Christians don't believe the second incarnation of the Son of God has arrive,
Muslims believe the first and second have arrived.
"Beliefs"....now, therein lies the problem.
By Steven, at Sun Feb 12, 12:43:00 AM:
Nope, Muhammad isn't the Second Coming.
The Koran is quite explicit in saying God had no son, God never became flesh, and God is not a trinity.
Both Jesus and Muhammad were just men, like the earlier Islamic prophets Noah, Abraham and Moses. (Islam also teaches Jesus was born of a virgin, making him an unusual kind of man, but still a created creature of God, not a begotten Son.) The Jews persistently ignored or twisted the Islamic teaching of the prophets Allah sent them, and finally Allah just gave up on them and sent Gabriel to Muhammad.
By Citizen Deux, at Sun Feb 12, 10:01:00 AM:
The simple acpest of allof this is the limitations on the sharing of ideas.
If God is truly unknowable, as most religions would posit, then nothing we say could possibly offend God...
Alas, it seems that the Islamists who are behind this eruption are placing themselves in the camp of the infallilble..
They're all wrong. The true incarnation of the Deity in this earthly plane is, of course, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Well, it's no more dopey than Islam or Christianity.
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By TigerHawk, at Sun Feb 12, 12:30:00 PM:
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, atThey want to wipeout christianity and replace it with their own its not the religion of peace
By geoffrobinson, at Sun Feb 12, 05:31:00 PM:
The Koran tells us to believe in the Torah and the New Testament. Theologically, it is their Achilles Heel, since those documents contradict the Koran.
As a Christian, I would argue that the Hebrew Scriptures point towards the Trinity and the incarnation but we can have that discussion another day.
By Unknown, at Sun Feb 12, 06:52:00 PM:
re: box-cutters
fyi, Richard Miniter debunks the box-cutter myth in his book Disinformation. It's pretty clear they came through security with a variety of weapons that were against the rules (and likely could do so again today).
Government can barely do the minimal job defined in the Constitution competently. It's a utopian fantasy to expect otherwise. 9-11 happened in part because we disarmed passengers (who otherwise were licensed to carry concealed weapons). Post 9-11 reviews of passenger lists showed more than a dozen individuals with permits who would otherwise have carried a weapon.